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X Gallentius
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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:09:00 -
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troll The moment you allowed WBR to be your lead corp was the moment you started to failcascade. It took the Caldari two years to recover from WBR. It might take you guys two years as well. But at least you can start the rebuiding process now. /troll |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:10:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Just saying. If the empire slavers are dead there are plenty of nullsec slavers yet to bleed. No! We need Matar farmers to break FW in Gallente space first! Then on to Providence! |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:12:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Caldari in not going to shoot systems anymore, so soon there is no farming for gallente or minmatar. Thank you! I will happily play FW and cash out every month at Tier 3/4 with the meager LP I make while pvp'ing. |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:17:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote: its about the inferno changes eradicating fun pvp from low sec by gaying it up with sov lockouts and STUPID isk ratios for time spent on funking buttans!
I give you FW stats: Top corp for final blows in a week used to be 70-80. Now my corp is at 142 final blows for the week and is only No. 8. FUN PVP HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. At least the type of pvp I like to do has increased. "Station games and killing noobs on station with fast locking Macherials" type of pvp has decreased by over an order of magnitude. |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:23:00 -
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Muad 'dib wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Muad 'dib wrote: its about the inferno changes eradicating fun pvp from low sec by gaying it up with sov lockouts and STUPID isk ratios for time spent on funking buttans!
I give you FW stats: Top corp for final blows in a week used to be 70-80. Now my corp is at 142 final blows for the week and is only No. 8. FUN PVP HAS INCREASED SIGNIFICANTLY. At least the type of pvp I like to do has increased. "Station games and killing noobs on station with fast locking Macherials" type of pvp has decreased by over an order of magnitude. how long will that last? my corp is top for pvp kills for years, and now more than ever, but guess what, fighting mwd frigs with no guns sucks. so have fun while it lasts you short sighted fool. It's lasted for almost four months. Will continue into the next expansion. |

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Posted - 2012.08.19 23:33:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:X Gallentius wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Caldari in not going to shoot systems anymore, so soon there is no farming for gallente or minmatar. Thank you! I will happily play FW and cash out every month at Tier 3/4 with the meager LP I make while pvp'ing. well you might understood it bit wrong, we let gallente to shoot ihubs with their alts. That was Happy Endings and their dread fleet.  |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 03:49:00 -
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Cearain wrote:I guess if you want to be a cheerleader you can spin almost three months as "almost 4 months"  But I am hoping the pvp stays higher than it was before. CCP can still improve allot though. Plenty of nights with good pvp few and far between. So you agree with me and not the Amarr guy. Fights are up, and will be for a while. |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 05:56:00 -
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RTSAvalanche wrote:You skipped over one of the major points which is how does the loosing side keep fighting when their isk dries up? The Amarr corps that left cashed out first..... So they definitely had the isk to continue to fight. |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 06:08:00 -
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Yuri Intaki wrote:"Release your anger, only your hatred can destroy me!" - Darth Vader Why are you quoting yourself again?
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Posted - 2012.08.20 13:55:00 -
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FIRST GENERAL wrote:And yes, maybe some of the criticism against Lost Obsession is justified.... lol at camping Agony Unleashed in station. +1
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Posted - 2012.08.20 17:07:00 -
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Ezra Tair wrote: For a long time, even before their was a LP reward for doing so, many minmatar plexed and desired to 'capture' systems. Those guys never left minmatar militia. +1. And many of them joined up when alliances were allowed into FW. This is the root cause of the Minmatar win. They had, and have, more guys interested in system occupancy. The interesting thing to me is that the morale of an entire militia is affected by a mechanic most of them care nothing about. (This morale issue happens on all sides and is quite interesting to see.) |

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Posted - 2012.08.20 21:50:00 -
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RTSAvalanche wrote: ... tier4 for about an hour & most of the people I know in amarr militia were not logged on to enjoy the brief moments of it
Once again, I blame CCP chatgris for this - the cause of all that is wrong with FW. And a Wex's crew, and all those RP Minmatar griefer corps, and ... |

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Posted - 2012.08.31 16:12:00 -
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Zarnak Wulf wrote:I see nothing but good stuff in the proposals. The gravy train is over. Tier 4 will be the new tier 5. I think Susan Black quoted 6 million LP to upgrade for a spike. That number is now 24 million LP. But really - there will be no spikes anymore. You earn a reflection of where you're at. A system will have to be contested to 50% before all upgrades would be stripped. The upgrades are more robust for industrialists, especially if the devs follow up on their hints to cut high sec efficiency. I need to run numbers on how much it's going to take to keep systems upgraded, but my initial impression is that it's going to be very tough to keep a warzone upgraded to Tier 3. Both sides (winning and losing) are going to move towards missioning to make LP (the farmers pre-inferno will still be around - the farmers post inferno will leave).
A few talking points: 1. We're going to have to read infinite numbers of FW posts by Ms. Yoshida on how the system is totally stupid and lame and whatever, and by Cearain on how it should promote pvp and not farming of missions, yada yada yada.
2. FW pilots will spend less time pvp'ing because they won't be able to pvp and make isk at the same rate as before and will therefore need to run FW missions or go out of theater to make isk. Number of fights will be down.
3. Mission systems will be key objectives in FW. Nennamaila, Heydieles and many other systems will be worthless. Enaluri, Eha, etc.. will increase in importance.
4. Damar will cry about the invulnerability of the low sec mission hub system Parts (and now he'll be right), while I'll cry about how there are too many Caldari mission systems too close to Gallente space and that the geography of the map clearly favors Caldari.
5. SoTF will invest in 100 cynojammers and be the dominate hot dropping super cap corporation of all low sec. (WBR will rejoin FW, maybe PL too)
6. We'll still be in FW - killing stuff, trying to take systems, and having fun. |
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